DoubleXpressions — Nazneen Rahman, Cancer Doctor and Jazz Singer

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Nazneen Rahman is an accomplished cancer researcher and physician, and in the past few years, a singer with a following on SoundCloud. She spoke with our Chris Gunter about “coming out” with her passion for music.

 

DXS: First, can you please give us a quick overview of what your scientific background is and your current connection to science? 

NR: I am a Doctor and Scientific researcher in genetics. In my medical role, I am Head of the Cancer Genetics Service at the Royal Marsden Hospital in England. We see families in which a genetic cause of cancer is being considered. We evaluate the likely genetic contribution, undertake genetic testing in cancer patients and their relatives and advise on potential options for screening and preventative measures. In my scientific role I am Head of the Division of Genetics and Epidemiology at the Institute of Cancer Research. My team identifies genes that predispose to cancer. I particularly work on breast cancer, ovarian cancer and childhood cancers. The link with the clinic is very strong and allows us to translate our scientific findings back into clinic to benefit patients. We are currently particularly focussing on using new sequencing technologies to increase the accessibility of gene testing to benefit cancer patients and their relatives, through an initiative called the Mainstreaming Cancer Genetics programme (www.mcgprogramme.com). I love both the scientific and clinical dimensions to my work and feel tremendously lucky to be able to work on things that are both useful and endlessly fascinating.

DXS: What ways do you express yourself creatively that may not have a single thing to do with science?

NR: Music has been a life-long passion of mine. I couldn’t imagine a day without music in some form (even if just singing in the shower!). I don’t know where it comes from, I’m a complete outlier in my family, although my son is very musically talented (one could contemplate the contribution of nature vs nurture!). I learnt the piano as a child, after begging for lessons for quite some time, but am very mediocre. However, I can sing and I have always written songs and harmonies without really thinking about it, and without any formal training. Over the years I have done various different things, but gradually found it increasingly difficult to fit in organised musical activities. So, a couple of years ago I decided to start recording my own songs and I’ve really loved it. Initially I was just doing it as a musical outlet for myself, but last year I posted some of my songs online and had a really positive response, which was unexpected and lovely. I now have over 1000 followers and have been inspired to make an album which I am hoping to release sometime in 2013. My songs tend be stories about the complexities of life, with lush harmonies, quite a jazzy feel and I have a fondness for a slinky bass line.

DXS: Do you find that your scientific background informs your creativity, even though what you do may not specifically be scientific?

NR: Overall I don’t think so. My singing and songwriting are very instinctive, I don’t work out what to sing and am pretty fluid about notes and timing, whereas my science is iterative, meticulous and I’m very pedantic (as my students would likely testify with a heartfelt sigh). However, in producing the tracks for the album my scientific approach has rather come out; I want every note and sound to be the right one. My producer, Joe (from www.auburnjammusic.com), is both amazingly talented and very patient! Fortunately he also has a passion for detail, so it’s worked out well and I’ve loved working with him on the album.

[Check out Nazneen on SoundCloud, like the song “Running Wild.“]

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DXS: Have you encountered situations in which your expression of yourself outside the bounds of science has led to people viewing you differently-either more positively or more negatively?

NR: Until I put my music online I had, moreorless, kept my music and my science separate. But of course the internet is an open place, so pretty quickly people started to make the link. Initially, this made me anxious, but I don’t think there has been any negativity, perhaps a little surprise that I’d never mentioned it before. I can’t quite remember why I decided to keep these two very important strands of my life separate. For certain when I was younger I thought my music might make people take me less seriously scientifically, but I also did like having something to escape to that was completely removed from the day-job.

DXS: Have you found that your non-science expression of creativity/activity/etc. has in any way informed your understanding of science or how you may talk about it or present it to others?

NR: Yes I think so. I love words and communicating with words, whether in lyrics, or research papers, or presentations, or in explaining things to patients. I love the way a few well-chosen words can distill something complex into something simple. How words can be so beautiful and so powerful. Words are the common thread and joy of many of the things I do, scientifically and creatively.

DXS: Do you think that the combination of your non-science creativity and scientific-related activity shifts people’s perspectives or ideas about what a scientist or physician is? If you’re aware of such an influence, in what way, if any, do you use it to (for example) reach a different corner of your audience or present science in a different sort of way?

NR: It’s an interesting question. I would certainly like some of the perceptions about scientists, particularly women scientists, to become less one-dimensional. I am becoming increasingly engaged in thinking about new ways in which to reach people, particularly with the Mainstreaming Cancer Genetics programme, which will need to communicate broadly to many different groups to be successful. One of the benefits of my ‘creative side’ is that I have quite a lot of creative friends. One of my closest friends is a brilliant playwright who has recently got funding to write a play based on a genetic theme which came out of the hours I spent bending her ear about it! Music and science are already entwined in many ways and I would quite like to develop ways to use music to teach new audiences about science.

 

[Video of Nazneen talking about ovarian cancer discoveries made possible by funding from Cancer Research UK.]

DXS: If you had something you could say to the younger you about the role of expression and creativity in your chosen career path, what would you say?

NR: Hmm I’m finding these questions difficult!. I’m not sure I had a very definite chosen career path, other than wanting to be doctor. I did miss musical opportunities when I was younger that I mildly regret now, but I’m not sure I would have done anything very differently even with hindsight. I guess a good aspiration, at any age, is to just try to be the person that you are and do the things that you are passionate about, unapologetically. I still don’t always find it so easy to do, but it does always feel right.

 

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About Chris Gunter

Chris Gunter, the Science Education Editor for Double X Science, is a geneticist by training and science educator and communicator by passion. After moving from the lab to professional science editing, she served as the genetics and genomics editor at the journal Nature for seven years. Early on, she told her boss as a joke that her time at Nature would end when she got the most exciting genome of all, the platypus, having no idea this would turn out to be true. From 2008-2012, Chris served as the Director of Research Affairs at the nonprofit HudsonAlpha Institute for Biotechnology. She currently holds adjunct professorships at three universities primarily to teach, and edits and writes scientific material on contract through her own Girlscientist Consulting. But the best job of all is raising her Lilkid.

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